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Jeff Vidler: One in Two Million: How Listeners Discover New Podcasts

This guest column by Jeff Vidler, President and Founder of Signal Hill Insights Inc. in Ontario, was first published on the Signal Hill blog. Jeff Vidler is a regular speaker at RAIN Summits, and is the co-producer of the Canadian Podcast Listener Report.


One of the biggest challenges facing podcasting is discovery.

It cuts both ways. Where can podcast listeners go to find their next great obsession? And, if you’re a podcaster, how do you get your podcast discovered among the 2 million or so podcasts crowding the playing field?

We put our microscope on this a few months ago in The Canadian Podcast Listener 2020. Our Client Advisory Council told us they wanted something more detailed than asking listeners how they ‘typically’ discover new podcasts as we had in previous years.

So we devoted a whole section of this year’s survey to chase this down. We asked monthly listeners if they had found any new podcasts in the past 6 months and followed up with a series of questions about their latest find. What was that new podcast? And what was the very first place they found out about it?

By drilling into that moment of truth, these questions give us a ‘share of discovery’ by method and some surprising insights.

Top 5 Ways to Help Listeners Find Your Podcast

1. Get your podcast on another podcast.

2. Give your listeners a ‘remarkable’ podcast.

3. Build out a social media strategy—focusing on earned or owned social media.

4. Optimize the searchability of your podcast.

5 (tie). Use video to help promote your audio.

5 (tie). Leverage blog or website content.

Bubbling Under—the Other Discovery Levers

The above Top 5 accounted for 80% of the ways listeners first found about their latest new podcast.

What about hearing about the podcast on the radio? Broadcasters place a lot of bets on their own airwaves to promote their podcasts. How about in-app recommendations based on other podcasts you listen to, or getting featured on the app’s home page or on its top podcasts listings? A lot of podcasters put a lot of energy into getting prominent placement on podcast apps.

Those are the next three factors (radio at 5%; in-app recommendations at 4%; and the app’s home page or its top podcasts listings at 4%). And they can help. They are just less likely than the Top 5 to give you that first point of discovery.

Further down the list are email newsletters, other online podcast listings and other off-line media (TV, newspapers/magazines and posters/billboards).

Is this the definitive road map to discovery? Hardly. It’s still early days for podcasting. As podcasters and publishers find other ways to surface their podcasts, and as podcast listeners hack their way to find new favourites, new paths will emerge.

The Canadian Podcast Listener 2020 surveyed a nationally representative sample of 1,618 monthly podcast listeners in October, 2020 using the Maru Voice Canada online survey panel. The study is published in partnership with Jeff Ulster of Ulster Media, with support from The Podcast Exchange (TPX). More details and a free summary report are available at canadianpodcastlistener.ca.

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